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1983-12-27 Public Hearing on Facilities Plan TranscriptCouncil Meeting of 27 December, 1983 PUBLIC HEARING ON FACILITIES PLAN Council President Schroder - Mr. Deaton would you introduce that. City Manager Deaton - Sometime ago the Council authorized the administration to proceed with the preparation of plan for expansion of the Janesville Waste Water Treatment Facility, in the past six years there have been at least two occasions when the City has been under moratorium and were prohibited from making sanitary sewer line extensions, because the final affluent from our treatment plant did not meet state requirements. We have in 1983 had two months when we did not meet those requirements, because our plant was unable to treat the quanity and strength of waste that was being received. The procedure for expanding the plant is a three -step process: Step 1 being the preparation of a facilities plan for the propose of determining just what should be built in order to bring the treatment plant up to standard where it will be able to accept and treat the waste that we can anticipate receiving at the plant over the next twenty years. Following the completion and approval of the facilities plan by the DNR, we then may go to the second step which is preparation of plans and specifications for the construction of the treatment plant expansion; the third step then is the actual construction itself. In preparing the facilities plan, there have been a number of contacts with particularly the major contributors of waste water to our treatment facility and potential major contributors —those who may be increasing or decreasing the volume and strength of waste they contribute to the plant. There also is - was a presentation to the public a couple of weeks ago of the facilities plan, we had some citizens here, some representatives of industry and also some Councilmembers and tonight is an announced time for public hearing on.the facilities plan. There is no action required by the Council this evening, but it is an opportunity for the general public to speak up on this..to make any comments they have relative to the plan, to ask any questions they may have relative to the facilities plan, a number of plans have been made available and have been checked out from time to time from the Engineering Department, so that those that are interested may have an opportunity to review it, and the comments that are received this evening and the questions that are addressed will become a portion of the submission to the DNR so that everyone's comments will be forwarded on and the department will have the benefit of these public comments when they evaluate the plan as it is submitted to them. The City hired the consulting engineering firm of Strand Associates, Inc. to prepare the facilities plan and this evening we have with us Mr. Mike Doran, representing Strand Associates - he did a great portion of the work on the facilities plan and he will make a brief presentation of the plan to the public. Following that we can then open the matter for public comment. Mr. Doran. Mr. Doran - Thank you Mr. Deaton. The report that has been prepared is very technical in nature and it's very long and the intent this evening, ladies and gentlemen, is just go over some of the very - highlights of the report briefly and to not dwell on some of the technical issues, but to provide a general overview. The facilities plan was based on a - the need to provide for sewer service for the population in the planning area that would be defined by the City of Janesville and the four surrounding townships - The Town of Janesville, the Town of Harmony, the Town of LaPrairie, the Town of Rock. This planning area is identical to that planning area that was used for the area -wide plan that has recently been prepared. The plan was based on meeting the needs of the populated area of the planning area to the year 2006—this would represent twenty years of service for the new facilities that would be constructed as part of the project. An important part of this activity was projecting the populations. The City had prepared population projections previously for use in the area -wide plan and these projections were used for purposes of the facility plan and extended an additional six years to the year 2006. The population that has been used for the City, year 2006, is 70,000 people. There are major elements in the facilities plan. The first element is looking at the collecting sewer system to determine if there are sources of infiltration of ground water into the sewer system or inflow of surface waters into the sewer system that can be economically removed and thereby reduce the cost through waste water treatment. Now the City has prepared, in the last five years, and completed a substantial effort in locating and eliminating sources of extraneous water into the sewer system. We found in reviewing the -City records, that approximately 2 million gallons a day of this excess filtration and inflow had been successfully removed by the City's efforts. As a result of this, there is not a great deal of additional work that has been found to be economical. We did, however, locate five sources of infiltration inflow that would result in removal of about 200,000 gallons per day of infiltration inflow at the waste water treatment plant at a total capital cost of about $17,000, so we determined that this amount of infiltration inflow removal is economical, but that it does not appear economical at this time to do substantial additional insystem investigation tc try to locate additional sources. The second phase of the project related to an evaluation of the intercepting sewers within the City. These are the main sewers that convey flows from the various collecting sewers that serve the neighborhoods and industries in the City. The need was to determine if the capacity of these intercepting sewers was adequate to serve existing and planned future needs of the community. It was identified that there are four areas within the intercepting sewer system that require reinforcement, in order to provide this necessary capacity. Items No. 1 & 2 are siphon crossings of the Rock River, item No. 3 is a intercepting sewer that serves the south side of the City and the fourth item, listed as a small sewer along Memorial Drive, is currently overloaded. The cost of these improvements total approximately 1 million dollars and it is recommended these improvements be made to provide necessary capacity to serve the planning area needs during the planning period. The following step was to project the flows and loadings that would arrive at the waste water treatment works during the planning period. You can see that we made projections for the year 1996, 2001 and 2006. As the projections of flows and loadings were very close for all three years, in other words, most of the anticipated growth was expected to occur early during the planning period, it was determined most appropriate to plan the total 20-year projected growth and to size the expanded facilities on this basis. Estimates were then made of the domestic loadings, which would be the loadings from the residential and commercial sources within the community, the industrial loadings, the major industries located within the community, and allowance was made for reserve capacity for future unanticipated industrial expansion. In addition, had to provide for infil- tration inflow that had previously been identified. After the anticipated future needs had been determined, the next step was to look at the existing treatment works and to determine the areas of deficiency at the plant. We found that in all the major process steps at the treatment plant that under current conditions overloading existed and these would only be compounded in the future as the loading at the treatment Forks were to expand. We found that the primary clarifiers, which under current operating conditions and design standards were rated for about 6 million gallons per day. We find that currently they're receiving over 13 million gallons per day of flow, and the needs for the year 2006 were about 17 to 18 million gallons per day. We find that the aeration basin and:the final clarifiers which make up the biological treatment system, similarly are overloaded to an extensive degree and in both the hydraulic and the organic loading aspects. We also found that the anaerobic digestion system, which is the means that the treatment plant for stabilizing the sludges or the solids that grow up during waste water treatment, that these units also are substantially overloaded at the present time and are in need of expansion. In addition to the violation of water quality standards, Mr. Deaton mentioned a few moments ago, there is another environmental aspect that needs to be addressed in terms of the expansion at the treatment plant and that is the environmental issues related to odors and other nuisance conditions that are resolved from the operation of an over- loaded plant, and the expansion that is proposed will also address these environmental factors that the residents that live near the treatment plant at the present time, at some portions of the year have undesirable conditions in this regard. A number of alternatives were evaluated for the expansion at the treatment plant. These included three different biological treatment approaches - they all involved the maximum utilization of the existing facilities in the effort to keep costs at a minimum. It was determined that the most economical approach whould be to expand the existing system of single stage activated sludge. We also evaluated a number of alternatives for handling the sludges that are generated during waste water treatment. We determined there again that the most economical approach would be to expand the existing system of high rate anaerobic digestion. We determined a number of other features to the treatment plant should be added that are not present at the current facilities. The first unit process would be thickening the waste biological sludge. That results in a substantial improvement in the costs for handling the sludge, the expense associated with digestion of the waste biological sludge, and the last unit operation that we recommend added to the facilities is that of dewatering the digested sludge and this provides a flexibility to deal with the sludges that are generated at the treatment works during the winter months when it is not acceptable under current guidelines to apply this digested sludge to the land during the winter months because of the potential for environmental problems when spring thaw comes and the sludge can run off into surface waters. I would like to put up a schematic diagram of the proposed facilities and just very briefly go through the unit operations that are involved and talk about the approximate level of expansion that is recommended as part of the report. The flow scheme goes from left to right on the top, or the waste water treatment units. The influent screw pumps and bar screens we recommend as part of the report a minor expansion of those facilities. Pumping capacity is substantially there at the existing treatment plant. The bar screen, however, we are recommending an additional bar screen to the existing one that's there. The erated grit tanks is recommended that no additional tanks be constructed, but that mechanical equipment be installed to properly handle the grit that accumulates within these units. Primary clarifiers - these are the units that are responsible for the settlement and removal from the waste water of the growths, heavy solids that are settlible during waste water treatment, we are recommending a doubling of capacity of those units. The aeration tanks and final clarifiers similarly in expansion of approximate 200% to those units. Chlorine contact tanks, about a 100% expansion to that volume. -2- The metering flume and step aerator are currently adequate. The units down on the lower part of the figure relate to the sludge handling..we mentioned the waste activated sludge thickeners, those are new units. The digestion facilities we are recommending about a 100% expansion current capacity and as we mentioned a few moments ago, the addition of belt presses to dewater the anaer (?) digested sludge. The proposed means of dealing with the sludges generated is to continue the liquid land application program during the good weather period of the year, and to sanitary landfill the dewatered sludge during the winter - during severe weather conditions. I'd like to spend a few minutes talking about the anticipated costs of the project. The total initial capital costs are estimated to be about 17 million dollars. In the construction costs area about $14,000 for the sewer system rehabilitation, about $800,000 for intercepting sewer improvements and about 13 million dollars for the waste water treatment facility addition. Following construction of the facilities, we have estimated a annual operating budget requirement of about $3,400,000 including operation and maintenance of the facilities, depreciation on the capital tax equivalent and a return on investment for invested monies in the facilities. All these figures represented in 1983 dollars. Based on the esitmated annual operating budget and other factors, we have estimated the cost to the various user classes within the community the 3.4 million dollars approximately half of it being raised from residential customers, about $480,000 from commercial, a little over a million dollars from industrial customers and the remaining from public users of the system and miscellaneous income to the utility. The anticipated average residential cost would be approximately $30 per quarter, after the project was in place as compared with a little over $18 per quarter under the proposed interim rates. As Mr. Deaton had indicated at this point in time we are nearing the end of step 1 - that is the preparation of the concept plan for the expansion. What I projected up to now is a schedule for the remaining part of the project. It is anticipated that the plans and specifications for the expanded facilities could be completed by the middle of 1984, that construction for the new facility to be complete by approximately the end of 1986. I realize that was a very quick run through on a very technical subject - so if any one has any questions, they should go up to the podium and state their name and we will do our best to answer any questions that you may have at this time. Schroder - Thank you Mr. Doran. The public hearing then is open. Is there anyone who wishes to address the Council - has questions of Mr. Doran regarding the waste water pollution control facility - the report that we have just heard? No questions from any one? Yes sir. I am Ruppert Moe, 746 Cornelia - One thing I wanted to ask, on your old unit is that being used any more? As I recall, when they built the new sewage plant, it was with the projections of the City of being in the neighborhood of 50,000 people, and also the old one was supposed to be still operational when they - if it was overloaded, the new one, why the old one could be used to take up any access load. Now I wonder has it ever been used since the new one has been put in, or is it still operational —can it be used? Schroder - I don't think it works exactly the way you -'re saying, but I would ask Mr. Deaton or someone from the Engineering Department to answer that question. Deaton - Mr. -President, the old facility has been sold to the S�herex Chemical Company and they now use that as a pretreatment facility for their waste before it comes into the municipal system ... I don't know when that sale took place. Moe - One other thing, when they make your projections here, they have projections going up to 2010 or 2006,your projections were made on the old one too, but according to your ...to the paper a night or two ago, I think it was in the news of ten years ago - there was a new plant opened up and it was ...it had the labor to take care of it at that time..now that was a new plant and still it ha.d a hard time handling the load, according to the paper the other night... it said it was at capacity —opened up at capacity. Deaton - I am not familiar with the article you are addressing, I realize there was one in the paper ... the current plant, as I understand, opened up about 1968, Mr. Beatty is that correct - 1970 ? Moe - 1973 - it was in the news for 10 years ago. Deaton - I hate to ever disagree with the newspaper, but Moe - Well I realize you weren't here ... I - probably none of the Councilmen were on at that time.. Deaton - I have to rely on the City Engineer here - our expertise here, because he was around. Beatty - It was under construction in 1968 and 1969 and it opened in 1970. Deaton - So that would be thirteen, nearly 14 years ago. I guess any time you make -3- projections, you realize that several things are liable to happen, and most likely one is...your projection is going to be wrong. Moe - One you annex another twenty or thirty acres or so - when you do annex another 20 or 30 acres is that not going to put an additional load on the sewer plant? Would it be wise not to try to annex quite as much ... I imagine it must be quite expensive to lay these new sewer lines out..somebody's got to pay for them. What I am thinking about...I am retired and on a fixed income, adding another $18 for each quarter that's going to be quite a burden..our taxes went up 11% and Social Security went up 32% and then this added on with all the other prices, that's my big thought ... I understand if the DNR is after you to - you have to do something, but Deaton - The new sewers that are constructed are paid for predominately by the abutting property owners ... they are not a burden on the users or on the taxpayers. We put new sewer lines in by assessment against the property. Certainly the people contribute waste have to pay to have the waste treated and I would agree there may be some point where it is optimal to say that this is as much waste as we want going into this treat- ment plant. The thing we have to consider when we look at annexation, however is not just one item - we cannot make our decision on annexation just based on how it may affect our waste water treatment plant. We have to look at all of the aspects of our municipal government, and not only just the government but all of our community in determining what is best relative to any annexation. But you are correct, sir, if the plant's full then we start adding more to it we are creating a problem. Moe - I was hoping there would be more Senior Citizens here to help me .... all right, thank you. Schroder - Thank you sir. Anyone else wishing to speak on this subject? Yes sir. Mark Ecklund, 1110 Laramie Lane. I had a couple questions. On the design, and I think I'll just hit a couple things here as a general thought in my mind. You show here that the primary clarifiers have a rated capacity of about 6 mgd,reading about 132 now - future at 17. In your preliminary discussion you said double the capacity of the primary clarifiers.... well if you double six, it is still less than the current loading on the plan, so I don't..I guess I am not understanding what's happening when you double some- thing, that's double isn't it? Mike Doran - That question is fairly complicated, and I understand how you got a question in your mind over that. The 5.8 million gallons per day of rated capacity at the present time also is based on those units receiving waste activated sludge from the biological treatment system, and the plan calls for removing that source of additional solids loading and puttini7place a separate waste activated sludge thickening system. With that being done, the capacity of the units is increased substantially by approximately 40 percent. Ecklund - You mean the City is recycling waste activated back into the primary clarifiers? Doran - That's correct. Ecklund - Why wouldn't they recycle into the aeration tanks? Doran - I am not talking about return activated sludge - I am talking about the waste activated sludge, that access bio mass that grows up within the system needs to be dis- posed of. Ecklund - You mean it's not run straight to the disgesters then? Doran - No - it used to be common practice in activated sludge plants to utilize the primary clarifiers for the co -thickening of primary sludge and the waste biological sludge. Unfortunately, one drawback of that was the reduction in the capacity of the primary clarifier. Ecklund - ok - you said you worked with industry on what - in determining what they are going to do over the next twenty years to provide load to the plant. What does the City do to design commensurate with industry and have some guarantee that that industry is going to do that and not increase the load? How do we as a citizen have some protection against a flow that's listed here for an industry being x amount and ten years from now it's twice that ... they pay maybe a larger sewer fee, but our plant was designed now, it's not designed five years or ten years from now —what kind of guarantees do we have that those industrial flows don't double, or get larger or even get smaller.. do we have any - is there a way of getting a guarantee? Deaton - Mr. President, there is some question about how much you can guarnatee anything - you know where we have agreed on death and taxes are probably guaranteed, but beyond that there is not a great deal. What we have done, however, is meet with each of the industries in the City that make a major contribution to the system, and we are asking them to inter into a contract with the City, based upon their current and their projected flows, and to make essentially some promises to us based upon that. Now, I guess the -4- r r question comes what if General Motors annouces that they are going to double their capacity, and a result contribute substantially more to our waste stream, are we at that point going to tell them we would rather you didn't do that and we would rather you took your employees and your investment someplace else, or are we going to say - well that's a problem we are going to have to deal with when it happens it may mean some more investment in our community to accomplish this. I guess I would have to answer that the same way I answered Mr. Moe relative to annexation. Certainly there are problems that come with annexation and if we are going to have more people and build more houses, and if we are going to generate more waste then we are going to have to deal with that. If we also get some major industrial expansion that is a wet industry that is going to make some contribution to our wastewater treatment plant, perhaps one that isnq�,re now we certainly can't now inter into contracts with somebody that is not even here then we are going to have to evaluate their coming and see what their contribution to our waste stream is going to be and whether it's something we are going to accept or whether we wish to try to accommodate it, or it may be such that we can't accept it. Right now we are in a condition where we cannot accept a wet in- dustry iE'itiwishes to come to the City of Janesville and it has hampered our efforts at trying to generate jobs for the people that are unemployed in our community. Ecklund - So basically we can work with the current industry? In those contracts have some time frame to get worked out before design gets implemented? Because you are planning on designing here pretty soon. Deaton - You ask me a question - I'll have to refer to Mr. Rogers, Director of Public Works. Rogers - Yes, we have been in the process of dealing with the largest industrial users inside the City limits and we do expect to firm up contracts with them very early, if not before the design process begins. Ecklund - ok - because nothing was said about that in anything that's done here. ok ..the last point I had to make is about replacement of equipment. I was here January or December 7th or 6th, whatever, and we discussed that a lot of equipment has to be replaced, either because of high maintenance problems and costs and I guess the final clarifiers all are going to be replaced... because they don't go around was the answer that I got. Now this equipment should have a twenty-year design life, and basically if you replace it in '85 or'86, you are cutting that life short by 25%... now that 25 percent, I think has value, whether it's very small value and it's cheaper because we pay only half the cost to replace those units now than it would be to go in and replace them in 1990 or '91 or something like that,...I don't know..I don't have any answer there. Has that kind of thing been looked at? Have those tanks been dewatered... are they rusted out, are they falling apart on us ... I just don't think that because a unit doesn't go around in the winter time is adequate unless the City has tried 70 different ways to try and fix that problem in the last ten years. Deaton - Mr. President, I addressed this same issue with Mr. Lyle Hurd who is also here representing Strand Associates. It was the administration's opinion that we should not just replace equipment because we may be able to get a 50% federal grant to pay for the replacement, just because it happened to be old instead of new. It's somebody's money - somebody's tax money and it's some user's money... whether it comes from strictly the City of Janesville or whether it's a State of Wisconsin grant or whether it's an Environmental Protection Agency Grant coming from the federal government. Mr. Hurd assured me that his firm was very sensitive to this issue, and that we were in a situation where a great deal of our equipment, even tho it may originally have had a 13 or 20 year design life, was going to have to be either totally rebuilt or replaced in a very short period of time whether we had a plan expansion or not. Now I acknowledge I had to rely upon them somewhat along with Mr. Fredrickson who operates the plant and our other engineering staff, but that was the answer I received and I found it to be appropriate answer , but I will let Mr. Doran respond to any details he may wish relative to that question. Doran - Well, first of all I would like to say there is a great deal of existing equipment that is recommended to be retained and to become a part of the expansion facilities and in that regard we evaluated those units that did have remaining service life and in all cases where we found that service life remained on equipment we certainly did not recom- mend that those particular units be replaced. The type of equipment replacements that we do find necessary, however, are those units which either are required just substantial amounts of effort on the part of the maintenance staff to keep them in operation to the extent that it is just an uneconomical endeavor, or those units that are needed to be taken out of service because they are not reliable under certain circumstances and then that in effect results in a violation of treatment standards. Getting back to the clari- fiers that don't go around for example —if the clarifier mechanisms don't go around or don't go back and forth in the case of the primary collectors that results in a situation where solids cannot be adequately removed from those units, if they cannot be adequately removed, they end up in the Rock River and that results in violation of treatment standards There is another example that being the aeration equipment, it is at the point in time.. those particular units probably only have a 15 year life (about) and they are at 14 years now, they also, if they were to be utilized as part of the plant expansion would resolve in substantial cooling 6f the wastewater in the biological treatment system. The degree -5- of biological treatment is very much associated with maintaining warm temperatures in the treatment process, so we were all very much concerned about keeping those units in service in the face of them being at the end of their useful life and in all probability of them seriously affecting the performance of the treatment system because of the cool- ing effect. There are a number of additional examples like that but just to expound on Mr. Deaton's coments, we did make every effort where it was possible to retain the existing structures and equipment within the expanded plant. Ecklund - Will you be putting forth some kind of further report? Why, say, the primarly clarifiers are failing, you say they don't go around, I agree, .they don't remove sludge but there's other clarifiers around this country and they work, I don't know ... is it.. do they..are they wore out that they don't follow a track properly —or something I guess if they are not properly maintained that is something the City's gotta shape up on and improve their maintenance... maybe we have been skimpy on trying to maintain them the last ten years and giving proper budget to maintain and that's a different sort of problem - but on December 7 you said that new technology and they just go around.. I've thought about that a lot. You didn't say anything that you dewatered the tank and the metal is all but deteriorated and gone ... they —you replace the gear box every year at a cost of $45,000, nothing like that —just said they didn't go around. Doran - Well, first of all I'd like to say there is a good deal of detail in the report, itself and I am not sure you have had the opportunity to read through it all... Ecklund - no Doran - One particular example that possibly we could talk about is the effects of severe winter weather on the operation of the existing clarifiers... now the existing clarifiers are somewhat unique for this climate in that the mechanisms are driven by a tractor tire that rides on the outer periphery of the tank and you..requires maintaining non -slipping condition between that tire and the top of the tank at all times ... for the mechanism to continue to rotate. During very, very severe winter conditions, for example during ice conditions or blizzard conditions, the presence of snow and ice makes the continued operation of these units impossible because the tires can't develop traction on the wall of the tank anymore under those conditions, and this is the type of thing that no amount of operation and maintenance attention can really attempt to cope with and it certainly is not the fault of'the plant staff, it's the - a fact that manifests itself because of the original design of the equipment. Ecklund - I don't know - I haven't heard of the City of Beloit having that problem and they got the same kind of clarifier so that's why I harp on that so much. Thank you. Schroder - Thank you Mr. Ecklund. Anyone else wish to address the Council on this subject? Anyone else have any questions? Want to speak further on the wastewater disposal plant? Public hearing is closed. Any Councilmembers have questions of -Mr. Doran or the administration that they wish to bring up at the present time? OK - as was pointed out, Council need take no action on this tonight - information that we received will be included in report. Councilmember Miles. Miles - Yes, I have one question - I don't know who I should address this to...I believe the City of Milwaukee have a wastewater plant where they utilize or resell this as fertilizer. Has this been investigated - feasible. Deaton - I will let Mr. Doran respond. Doran - The City of Milwaukee actually it's the Milwaukee Metropolitan Sewage District operates two wastwater treatment plants. One of the wastewater treatment plants, I believe was originally constructed in about the 1925 to 1930 area and at that time part of the sludge management program, they installed equipment to basically dry and bag the sludges that were generated in wastewater treatment and at that time it was one of the only operations of it's sort in the country and over the years it developed a very wide spread distribution of the product and it was very successful program for them. Unfortunately, the process involves fairly heavy use of natural gas to provide for the drying of the sludge and in recent years, the natural gas prices began to soar ... they began to look very carefully.at continued use of that operation. What they did find was that because of their initial investment, in the facilities and because of the available market for the product, almost nationwide, that they should continue, but they wouldn't incorporate a similar facility at a treatment plant..indeed didn't at the new treatment plant that was built just quite a few years ago at the south end of the meto area. That particular system was built at the south shore, they didn't incorporate the Milorganite operation because the energy costs and their utilizing a system very similar to what is being currently utilized at the City of Janesville treatment plant and what is recommended to continue. In summary, the energy costs are high for getting the water out of the sludge and it makes that approach not economical for the City of Janesville. Miles - Thank you. You did answer that question, now I have another question. You indicated that you had intended to utilize trucks to transport this waste to the landfill. Is this going to create problems at the landfill and what kind of a life span are we going to probably lessen? Doran - That's a very good question. We untilized in the landfill as a result of volume of the landfill and therefore, we life of the sanitary landfill. The City those severe part of the year when it is for the application of the sludge. calculated the amount of space that would be the operation at being about 3% of the total believe it is not significant factor in the could minimize that by landfilling only during not possible to utilize the agricultural land Miles - That would be anytime the ground is frozen - or anytime it's too wet? Doran - Well to some degree the treatment plant can store sludge for short periods of time. The anaerobic digestion system has floating covers on the tanks so that for days and possibly as long as a few weeks, sludges can accumulate in the plant - during the wet weather period and in that fashion the operating staff could get around a period of that sort of a problem and not have to haul to the landfill. I would expect the City would only have to haul to the landfill during the winter months and if they had some sort of equipment malfunction at the plant that required them to go to the dewatering approach as a backup. Miles - Now would this type of a cover - floating cover - this will provide an odor for our residents in that particular area? Doran - No - it would-.not-in:fact, that is a very, very common practice ... the existing ...there are two existing digesters at the plant and one of them was originally designed with a floating cover. The floating cover has a gas seal around the outer peripheral (tape is changed ...space) there very valuable fuel and part of the proposed plan is to utilize this fuel in an engine generator system to provide (tape skips) however, the plan does compare quality of the sludge relative to heavy metals with sludge that are typically found in municipalities and if you compare the data that are collected on the existing sludge you will find that in general they are very low in heavy metals compared to most sludges that are generated in communities with industry and the metals in fact are not a threat to the application sites where the sludges would be applied. Part of the program that is developed for the land application for the sludge does consider the metal content and there are limits placed on the amount of sludge that can be placed on a particular site to prevent against the accumulation of the heavy metals in the soils at a particular site. Deaton - I would also comment, Mr. President, that one of things that we are working on in collateral with this is our industrial waste pretreatment ordinance that will require the control and to some extent the removal of heavy metals by the generating industries before it enters our waste streams, and one of the criteria in determining how much heavy metal the system can accept is the..one of the controlling factors is the amount of heavy metals that can be accepted in an on -land disposal system so when we determine how much we can accept we base that on how much we are capable of disposing and so we expect that a great portion of the heavy metal problem will be taken care of by the industries that generate those heavy metals. Schroder - Since this requires no Council action we will go to the next item...... Transcribed from tape of Janesville City Council meeting held on 27 December, 1983. Helen R. Pike Office of the City Clerk December 29, 1983 —7—