Meeting Minutes 6-26-12 Approved
LEISURE SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
JUNE 26, 2012
7:00 PM
MUNICIPAL BUILDING
FOURTH FLOORCONFERENCE ROOM #416
Members Present: Betty Schwarz, Benjamin Dobson, Sandra Hendricks, SteveKnox, Lorie
Markus, Dave Schollmeier, Melody Shanahan, and Bob Barry,
Councilmember Jim Ferrell
Absent Members:Dean Paynter, Christine Courtney
Guests:Jody Roberts, Sharon Terry
Staff Present: Shelley Slapak
The meeting was called to order at 7:00PM. Roll call was completedby sign-in sheet.
APPROVAL OF THE MAY 8,2012MEETING MINUTES
A motion was made by Dave Schollmeierand seconded by Sandy Hendricksto approve the
minutes of the May 8, 2012meeting.This motion was approved unanimously.
INTRODUCTION OF GUESTS
Jody Roberts representing Pickleball and Sharon Terry representing the Janesville Tennis
Association (J.T.A.) were introduced.
PICKLEBALL/QUICK START LINES AT PALMER PARK TENNIS COURTS
Jody Roberts explained the sport of Pickleball to the group. He explainedthat currently there
are five courts at Marshall Middle School that are lined for play. The primary issue related to
play at Marshall Middle School is wind. The group struggles with playing outside in the early
Spring due to high winds and the difficulty of getting the wind screen up. Jody shared that the
school lined some of the courts, and the City paid for some lining at Marshall. However, when
the courts at Marshall were resurfacedby the School District they re-lined all 5 courts and
included pickleball lines. Also theRiverside Park Friends resurfaced the tennis courts and
included pickleball lines on a court. Sandy Hendricks mentioned that the Riverside Friends
Group may be willing to line more courts for pickleball. Jody stated that Riverside Park is farther
away to travel to. Jim Farrell stated thatthe Janesville Athletic Club also haspickleball lines in
their gym. Jody Roberts explained that he would like to see one court (#6) be lined for pickleball
play at Palmer. He emphasized the reasons to be primarily less wind and more exposure to the
public. Sharon Terry from J.T.A.gave her support of pickleball lines at Palmer. It was shared
with the Committeethat the City has always maintained the Palmer Park tennis courts for
tournament play. Additionally, it was stated that while it is accurate that tournamentsand
W.I.A.A high school matches can be played on tennis courts with additional lines, it will still
make them less desirable for tournament play. A comment wasalso made that some high
school coaches have concerns with extra lines on the courts due to the players already having
to call the lines themselvesas there are typically no line judges. Extra lines could cause
problems for these players. Thecourts are already heavilyusedand creating these additional
lines will create more users concentrated in this area.
Sharon Terry explained Quick Start as a beginner youth program through the U.S.T.A.that
utilized smaller court sizes. Sharon requested that courts 7, 8, & 9 be lined for Quick Start. She
indicated she wishes thatthese lines would be put in at the time the courts are resurfaced. It
was shared with the Committeethat courts 7, 8, and 9 were scheduled for resurfacing in the
C.I.P. (Capital Improvement Projects)for 2012, but has not been brought to the City Council for
approval.
Bob Barry made a motion to support lining court 6 for pickleball play and courts 7,8 and 9 for
Quick Start pending available funding. Jim Farrell seconded themotion for recommendation.
This motion passed unanimously with Dave Schollmeier abstaining from the vote.
CASH CONTROL/SECURITY AT RECREATION FACILITIES
Jim Farrell explained that in light of the recent vandalism and burglaries experienced at various
recreation facilities he hoped to get some feedback on ways to improve security at our facilities.
It was commented that the Police Department has access to cameras and outside cameras at
facilities could be fed in and recorded at a central location. The topic of Rotary Gardens was
brought up regarding their purchase of a security system after vandalism took place at their
facility. Bob Barry commentedthat UW-Whitewater had a camera system that worked well for
them and offered to forward contact information. It was recommended by the Committeeto
gather information from various entities regarding usage, feasibility, and costs for camera
systems at specific recreation facilities. The information should be gathered and brought to the
Committee at the next meeting for recommendation forfuture budgets and capital improvement
projects.
ALCOHOL SALES AT SPECIFIC PARKS/RECREATION PROGRAMS
The ideaof allowing alcohol in parks with a permit was introduced to the Committee. Steve
Knox indicated that the subjectwas brought up before, but the concept of policingthe permit
was an issue. It was mentioned that a previousCommittee supported beer in parks, but it was
never brought to the City Council for support. Jim Farrell stated that he would be in support of
the concept of permitsbut not sales. Sandy Hendricks commentedthat she gets questioned
about alcohol by individuals wishing to holdwedding receptions or reunions in RiversidePark.
Dave Schollmeier commented that it should be noted that glass would notbe allowed.Melody
Shanahan suggestedthat the permit fee should be substantial, possibly $50. It was also
suggested that a deposit be charged for potential clean up. Bob Barry recommended that if
beer in parks was allowed by permit, there should be a time limit of 9PM. Melody Shanahan
questioned other areassuch as sand volleyball having abeer permit. It was suggestedto the
Committee that we look into other areas including Dawson Softball Complex ashaving beer. A
comment was madethat sponsors, which are typically bars,may have concerns with alcohol
sales at Dawson as it could affect players patronizing theirestablishments. Bob Barry indicated
that he liked the City of Waukesha’s policywhere another group sold the beer and it was under
their control, not the cities. This topic concluded with a request by the Committee to receive a
listof all pavilions and the amount/type of pavilion rentals currently taking place and for a
recommendation by theCommitteeat the next meeting.
MATTERS NOTON THE AGENDA
Sandy Hendricks requested we provide the Committee with a list of park water fountains
including which ones were turned off and the cost savings. Lori Markus mentioned that some
fountains were gifts to the City. Bob Barry suggested that shutting off water fountains
encouraged people to buy more plastic.
Bob Barry requested an explanation of swimming facility use costs at the school as it relates to
the new Tru-Up agreement between the City and the School District. Melody Shanahan
commented onher involvement with the South Central Swim Team and the frustration of having
to pay high fees to the School District for their pool use. Bob Barry mentioned that with the rise
in baby boomers,theneedfor recreation facility use may not be met due to other groups being
given priority to reserve facilities.
Steve Knox mentioned that he has received several complaints regarding the fact that nets are
not up at Dawson this year. It was shared that thenets were put up for fast pitch purposes and
have received much wear and tear over the years. It was decided to not put the nets back up
this year, but due to requests the Recreation Division has asked the Parks Division to put the
current nets back up through a new method. Steve also shared information about the Aquathon
Series.
th
Sandy Hendricks shared information regardingthe Riverside Park 90Birthday Party on
th
Saturday, July 14.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 8:40PM with a motion byDave Schollmeierandseconded by Betty
Schwarz.Thismotion passed unanimously.
The next Leisure Services Advisory Committeemeeting will need to be decided by
sending out an email to the committee to find out their availability. The meeting date that
th
the City is requesting is July 24.
Submitted by:
Shelley Slapak
Acting RecreationDirector