Approved 8/11/2010 Meeting Minutes
RECORD OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE
11 AUGUST 2010
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QUARTERLY MEETING OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE OF THE CITY OF
JANESVILLE, HELD IN THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING COUNCIL CHAMBERS, ON AUGUST 11, 2010
AT 4:30 P.M.
THE MEETING WAS CALLED TO ORDER BY COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN FITZGERALD AT 4:30
P.M.
COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT: DEB WOOD, ALLEN FUGATE, NICK FITZGERALD, RUSS
STEEBER AND BRAD REENTS.
STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT: DENNIS RYAN, MARGARET DUERR, KARISSA CHAPMAN, CARL
WEBER, AND DEPUTY CHIEF OLSEN.
AGENDA ITEMS:
A. ROLL CALL
B. MINUTES
Meeting of May 12, 2010. Said minutes were approved.
C. STOP SIGNS/YIELD SIGNS
1a. Bond Place & North Osborne Avenue and
1b. Bond Place & North Marion Avenue and
1c. Bond Place & North Willard Avenue
Dennis Ryan presented the Engineering Division’s recommendation to install yield
signs on Osborne, Marion, and Willard at Bond stating that yield signs will reinforce
State Statutes. Doug Coulter (247 Winesap Ct.) spoke in favor of yield signs but noted
that he would prefer stop signs, especially at Bond and Osborne. Committee Member
Steeber asked Mr. Coulter which street he would place the stop signs on and Mr.
Coulter indicated he’d place the stop signs on Bond (the main street). Mr. Coulter also
wanted to discuss the nearby intersection of Grant and Ravine, so Committee
Chairman indicated that discussion should take place under “Matters Not on the
Agenda”. Principal Veronica McMahon of Madison Elementary School was also
present to speak in favor of traffic control at these intersections, especially the Osborne
intersection, citing safety concerns with the congestion. Ms. McMahon also indicated
there are parental concerns with the safety patrol (children) setting out cones at the
crosswalks. Committee Member Wood expressed concerns as to whether yield signs
would increase safety and whether stop signs would have any negative impacts. She
also asked the Principal if the school attempts to educate parents on proper driving
behaviors. Mr. Ryan responded that the signs may not have much of a safety impact,
but the intersections meet yield sign criteria and the signs would reinforce State
Statutes. He indicated there are problems at the Osborne intersection, not unlike many
school zone intersections, but would not recommend stop signs on the main street
There was discussion regarding the unique configuration of the crosswalks at Osborne
and whether they contribute to an unsafe method of crossing. Committee Member
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Fugate stated that traffic congestion on Bond is the issue and parents not adhering to
the pick up/drop off rules, similar to many school zones. There was a discussion about
the possible need for an adult crossing guard at Osborne. Mr. Ryan indicated a study
would probably show it falling short of the criteria. Committee Member Steeber
motioned for yield signs on Willard and Marion, a stop sign on Osborne, an adult
crossing guard study, and a consideration to reconfigure the “V”-shaped crosswalk into
a “normal” crosswalk. The motion did not receive a second and was withdrawn.
Committee Member Wood wondered if a study should be done to assess the benefit of
reconfiguring the crosswalk. Committee Member Steeber motioned to install yield signs
on Osborne, Marion and Willard at Bond. Committee Member Fugate seconded. The
vote was 4-1-0 (with Committee Chairman Fitzgerald opposed). Committee Chairman
Fitzgerald then motioned for an adult crossing guard study at Osborne and Bond (with
a crosswalk examination). Committee Member Steeber seconded. The vote was 5-0-
0 in favor.
2. Division Street & East Van Buren Street
Mr. Ryan presented the Engineering Division’s recommendation to approve a yield
signs on Division. Dan Atwood (215 S. Division St.) was present and spoke in favor of
installing yield signs. Committee Member Wood agreed with placing control at this
location due to the topography but wondered whether stop signs were more
appropriate, citing the stop signs at adjacent intersections. Mr. Ryan indicated the
recommendation was based on the “safe approach speed”. Committee Chairman
Steeber motioned to approve the Engineering Division’s recommendation for yield
signs. Committee Member Fugate seconded and the vote was 5-0-0 in favor.
3. Elliott Street & Jerome Avenue
Mr. Ryan presented the Engineering Division’s recommendation to deny the request for
stop or yield signs at Elliott and Jerome and issue a vision triangle violation notice.
There were no citizens present to speak and no discussion. Committee Member
Steeber motioned to approve the recommendation to deny and Committee Member
Reents seconded. The vote was 5-0-0 in favor.
D. ADULT CROSSING GUARDS
1. Jefferson School Drive & Mt. Zion Avenue
Mr. Ryan presented the Engineering Division’s recommendation to deny the request for
an adult crossing guard at this location. Principal Krueger of Jefferson Elementary
School was present to speak about safety concerns at the intersection and why he
requested the study. The PTA president (and parent of children who use the crossing)
spoke in favor of an adult crossing guard. She noted that many parents at this
intersection look for a green light and drive without regard to children and pedestrians.
Committee Member Steeber questioned whether the cycle time of the traffic signals
could be adjusted to allow pedestrians to clear before traffic is given a green light. Mr.
Ryan stated that he would look into it and believed that adjustments could be made
similar to Crosby & Mineral Point and Memorial & Washington. Committee Chairman
Fitzgerald motioned to approve the Engineering Division’s recommendation to deny the
request for an adult crossing guard. Committee Member Steeber seconded and the
vote was 5-0-0 in favor.
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2. Harmony Drive & Newman Street
Mr. Ryan presented the Engineering Division’s recommendation to deny the request for
an adult crossing guard at this location, but provide enhance signage. Principal
Krueger of Jefferson Elementary School was present to speak in favor of a crossing
guard at this location. He indicated this intersection was of a greater concern to him
and the PTA than the intersection in front of the school. He also stated there was a
marked difference in traffic behavior when there was police presence. There was much
discussion about parents observing and obeying signs. Committee Member Wood
asked if enhanced signage would help and what the signage would be. Mr. Ryan
responded the newer yellow/green signs could be installed and a downward left arrow
added to the signage at the crosswalk. Other discussion included opening up the
vision at the intersection by restricting parking, painting curbs and educating students
and parents on responsibility. Committee Member Steeber asked what the cost of a
crossing guard was, citing a desire to protect the children despite the costs. Mr. Ryan
estimated the cost to be $6,000/ year per crossing guard. [Mr. Ryan followed up after
the meeting with Committee Member Steeber when he found out the actual costs are
about $3,240/year not including equipment and training.] Committee Chairman
Fitzgerald motioned to approve the Engineering Division’s recommendation to deny the
request for an adult crossing guard, but administratively add signage and parking
enhancements as discussed. The vote was 4-1-0 (with Committee Member Steeber
opposed). Mr. Ryan indicated he would work with the school to determine where no
parking and/or no parking, stopping, or standing zones should be established.
3. East Rotamer Road & North Wright Road
Mr. Ryan presented the Engineering Division’s recommendation to allow the request
for an adult crossing guard on the condition the Milton School District provide 100% of
the funding for the position. Principal Jeanne Smith of Harmony School was present to
speak in favor of an adult crossing guard, citing safety concerns at the busy
intersection. Committee Member Steeber asked how many children could potentially
use this intersection when bussing is discontinued. Principal Smith estimated around
65. She also indicated the School (and Milton School District) would feel the need to
provide staffing at the intersection if the funded crossing guard is not approved. The
Committee discussed how long the guard would continue, especially if the criteria are
not met. Mr. Ryan stated it would be up to the Milton School District to continue the
funding, but he anticipated it would last at least for the following school year. It was
decided there should be a follow-up study completed in the spring and a re-evaluation
.
completed prior to the 2011-2012 school year Committee Member Steeber motioned
to approve the recommendation to provide a guard on the condition the Milton School
District provides the funding. Committee Chairman Fitzgerald seconded. The vote
was 5-0-0 in favor.
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E.OTHER TRAFFIC ISSUES
1. Improving Neighborhood Traffic Safety (Public Service Announcement)
The Committee was provided an opportunity to suggest revisions to the contents of the
referenced Public Service Announcement. Committee Member Steeber asked if this
information was posted on the City’s website and printed in the newsletter. Mr. Ryan
indicated it was on the website and would request it be included in an upcoming
newsletter. Committee Members discussed how to break down the PSA, make it fun
(less “dry”) and get the Gazette to run it. It was decided Engineering would attempt to
break down the information into a “Frequently Asked Questions and Answer” format
and bring the results back to the Committee at the next meeting. No action was
required from the Committee.
2. Milwaukee St./Court St. Two-way Conversion Study Update
(Committee Chairman Fitzgerald and Committee Member Steeber were unable to stay
for this item and departed around 6:05)
Carl Weber, Director of Public Works, updated the Committee on the status of this
traffic study and presented the Committee with a brief summary report complete with
cost estimates for three alternatives. Committee Member Wood asked if the study took
into consideration elements of the Downtown Development Plan from 4-5 years ago
and wondered “how much was compatible”. Engineering will e-mail the complete study
to Ms. Wood.
F. MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA
1. North Grant Avenue and Ravine Street
After agenda items C 1a-c, Doug Coulter and his wife indicated they have numerous
safety concerns about this intersection including; high traffic volumes, stop sign
visibility, parking signage and/or yellow-painted curbing, parents entering and parking
in the “school property” west leg where stalls are “blackened-out”, lettering size on
signs, lack of flashing lights, and parents dropping off/picking up children in mid-street
and violating parking rules. He would like extra cones, signage enhancements and/or
improvements, and added enforcement in this area. There was a discussion about a
“study” that would be placed on the next agenda. Mr. Ryan indicated that he was
unclear what would be studied and reviewed by the Transportation Committee since
most, if not all, of the issues were “Administrative” decisions and this is an existing all-
way stop with a crossing guard. He did agree to schedule a future agenda item that
would include an aerial drawing showing existing conditions for further discussion.
The meeting was adjourned at 6:25 p.m.
The next meeting is scheduled for 4:30 Wednesday, November 10, 2010.
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